tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC November 6, 2012 1:00am-2:00am PST
this show has been all around the country in recent years. we have spoken to people in madison, wisconsin, columbus, ohio, freeport, illinois, newton, iowa, denver, colorado, miami, florida, we have been every of where. americans everywhere feel the pulse of this country, we can do better. this is an election about the hard working people that i have e met all over this country. so tomorrow we can take a right turn and go back to the policies that hurt the middle class or continue down the path of progress with president obama. i ask you to do one thing tomorrow. get out and vote. that's "the ed show." the "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening. i'm look forward to being here with you all tomorrow night. it's going to be great. thanks for staying with us for the next hour. four years ago tonight, it was actually the night after the '08 presidential election.
we voted november 4th. we vote november 6th this time. so november 5th was the night after barack obama had just walloped john mccain in that year's presidential election. you remember the electoral college map. the total 365 electoral votes for obama and only 173 for john mccain. barack obama won that presidential election with almost 100 electoral votes to spare. after that emotional victory on this night four years ago, the country started to appreciate what had just happened in that historic election toward what was going to happen next. now that we had barack obama as not just a candidate or as the winner, but as the next president, as the successor of two terms of george bush. >> elections have consequences. elections are not just the end of the campaign. the concession speech,s victory speech, these are the sounds of a starting pistol for what now begin. it's not just about winning a contest. we're hiring someone to start work. elections have consequences. remember?
>> i earned political capital and i intend to spend it. it's my style. that's what happened after the 2000 election. i earned some capital. i earned capital in this election and i'm going to spend it. >> if bush had capital and his election had consequences, how much capital does barack obama have now and what are the consequences of his lopsided victory? today is a new world. it's a new world about which we know very little. the question tonight is not what just ended. we know what just ended. the question is what happens now? that was four years ago tonight. it was the night after the 2008 election. and now we can answer that question. we know what happened.
now as we make our decision again as a country, as to whether or not barack obama should remain president or be replaced by a new republican challenger, we now know what he'd do with the office of presidency because we have seen him do it. >> the white house started this day on a much different note as president obama signed his first bill into law. the new law makes it easier for workers to sue for pay discrimination. >> with the stroke of a pen another big break from the bush era. democrats in congress have been trying to get this equal pay law through for two years. today it became a reality. >> the fair pay act for women, that was this president's first order of business. it was the first bill he signed into law. and signing that bill was the start of a lot more very quickly. >> today the president signs the bill in imposing new rules for credit card companies. >> today president obama signs a
bill that gives the food and drug administration unprecedented power to regulate tobacco. it will allow the fda to reduce nicotine in tobacco products, and tobacco companies will have to put large warnings on cartons of cigarettes. >> the president can point to one success here in washington for the marchers. that's the imminent passage of a hate crimes bill to make it a federal crime to commit an assault based on sexual orientation. >> the senate has passed a bill that the president has been pusheding that would extend health insurance for four million children. >> children's health insurance for four million kids, fwok regulation, credit card reform. president obama and a democratic house and senate got to work fast out of the gate on addressing the crises they were handed from the previous administration. but also on spending that political capital on problems that had lingered for years but were being kicked down the road.
>> the president did make an additional bit of history revamping of how college student loans are going to be handed out for years to come. it ends a 45-year program that provided subsidies to banks that offered government-backed college loans. starting july 1st, those guaranteed loans will be offered only by the department of education. >> three major figures in the democratic party, president obama, senator ted kennedy and former president bill clinton gathered together with orrin hatch for the signing of the serve america act. the bill triples the size of the national service programs. >> we have new numbers on just how successful this cash for clunkers trade-in program was in the end. >> thanks to the program, pretty much entirely to it, it's going to be a pretty solid august in terms of those auto sales. >> it ended up being a lot of very solid auto sales months. the rescue of the auto industry,
despite critics at the time, that rescue of the american auto industry worked like gang busters. there was the tripling in size of the service programs and a fundamental reform of this country's broken but fixed student loan system. it was the small matter of pulling the country back from the second great depression. >> less than a month in office shs and the president made history with a simple stroke of the pen. >> there you go. it's done. >> signing into law america's largest economic recovery package ever. >> the stimulus bill signed into law for the record was the single-largest tax cut ever, largest investment in clean energy, education investment, and largest in our nation's infrastructure for roads and bridges since the eisenhower administration. and things were just getting started. >> it's as close to universal health care as america will
likely ever come. and it will improve the health care of millions of americans in size and scope it's being compared to medicare and social security and tomorrow health care reform will be signed into law by the president. >> after decades and decades of trying and failing, president obama and the democrats achieved what was long thought to be the unachievable. real comprehensive health reform in a country that had no health system whatsoever. that was march 2010. this was four months later. >> almost two years now after the entire banking system almost collapsed president obama signed the financial reform bill into law. >> with the stroke of a presidential pen, the new financial regulatory reform law is aimed at curbing the excesses on wall street while protecting average americans who live and work on main street. >> these reforms represent the strongest consumer financial protections in history.
in history. >> after seeing through the bailout of a financial sector that had collapsed, collapse that brought this country to its knees, a wall street confully grags that inched us towards a second great depression shs the president pushed through the most significant set of financial reforms in two generations. then there was more to do. >> we now know who will be the next supreme court justice. the u.s. senate today confirmed judge sonia soviet mayor. only the third female justice in all of u.s. history. >> history was made when elena kagan was sworn in. she will be the court's third woman member. >> president obama is signing the start treaty, one of his key foreign policy goals that cuts arsenals by one-third. more than nine years after the september 11th attacks, first responders who were sickened at
ground zero will have federal health benefits. president obama signed the bill on sunday. >> today the president also put pen to paper, signing the repeal of the ban on guys in the military. >> your country needs you, your country wants you, and we will be honored to welcome you into the finest ranks the world has ever known. >> don't ask don't tell, that had been blocked in washington for too long, a e treaty with russia, two women appointed to the supreme court including the first hispanic supreme court justice in this nation's history. all of that was all accomplished in the first two years of his presidency. and then came the 2010 midterms and the house went to the republicans. and they pledged to oppose everything the president did. that logger heads between the the house republicans and the white house brought us to crises like the debt ceiling fight where republicans refused to raise the debt ceiling even they voted to do so under republican presidents.
they refused to do it under this president and brought about the almost unthinkable downgrading of the country's credit rating. even opposition that entractable cannot stop a presidency in its tracks. colin powell's endorsement more than a week ago put part of this legacy of this presidency as in sync as it could get. >> i also saw the president get us out of one war, start to get us out of a second war and didn't get us into any new wars. >> president obama did get all american combat troops out of iraq by the end of 2011. he killed osama bin laden as promised. on the one-year anniversary of killing osama bin laden, the president took a trip to afghanistan to sign an agreement to e get troops out of that country. on the timetable he promised once and for all. in support of the uprising in libya against moammar gadhafi, president obama did not make it
an american war despite pressure from the right to do so. he dispatched american resources and troops in support of a multilateral, multicountry effort which did ultimately overthrow that dictatorship without putting american boots on the the ground. he came out in favorite of marriage equality. he extended employment benefits to same-sex couples. and in the face of a congress that turned against its own immigration proposals because he was in favor of them too. president obama took executive action to stop the deportation of kids who were here without papers through no fault of their own. kids who were successfully pursuing an education or career in the u.s. military. and by the way, the stock market doubled, unemployment is below 8%, 32 straight months of job growth, and he quit smoking. >> that's the most persistent fly i have ever seen.
nice! >> now, where were we? >> it's four, long, tough years after he was elected. and we are now on the eve, literally, of another national decision about the american presidency. the case against this president from the republican side, if you take only the serious criticism is essentially that things could be better. yes, there's been a recovery, but it's not a good enough recovery. yes economic progress, but not good enough. that republican economic proposals they are saying, that the proposals this year in particular won't do what they did during the george bush years. the argument from the right is if we try the republican economic proposals from the bush years ago, this time they will work better. honestly, i think that's what the case against president obama boils down to. that's not always what the case against the president sounds like. but that is what it boils down to. i believe that's true because
the rest of the case against him that you hear so much about if you're honest about it is stuff this president hasn't done. they see he's raised taxes sp and he has not raised taxes. when this president hasn't done anything to your guns except let you take them into national parks now. they say he's doubled the deficit, he's brought it down by hundreds of millions of dollars since he took office. when the. s picked their nominee this guy, a guy whose campaign book was called "no apology" because this guy invented the idea of an american apology tour for president obama that he wanted to run against even though he never apologized. we should have known this was going to be a campaign that was going to aim its attacks against things that president obama never actually did. so whether it's the deficit attack or the guns attack or the
phoney religious freedom attack or the phoney apology tour attack, we have ended up with a campaign that has not much been about assessing the real things that really have happened these past four years. whether you agree with them or not, a lot has happened these past four years. it's worthy of debate. it's at least worthy of appreciating. four years after what you're looking at here, four years after that historic night when the nation elections our first african-american president, we're in the position to make a decision not that will result in a historic election like that one. we're in the position of making a decision that will be a national verdict on what has been a historic presidency. from health reform that we have been seeking for a century, to the saving of the american automobile industry, to the ending of the iraq war, to the killing of osama bin laden, this has been a presidency of his
torque consequence. and again it's not just because of the man himself. it's because of what this particular man did in office in this particular four-year period. so four years ago, it was grant park in chicago. tomorrow night, it's chicago again. president obama will be at the mccormick place convention center. he doesn't have other events tomorrow. we will see him in chicago. mitt romney will be in boston tomorrow night. hoping for a different outcome than john mccain had four years ago at that sad rally in arizona. before romney gets to boston he will still be on the trail in ohio and in pennsylvania. before the nation renders a verdict on not just a president, but a presidency whose achievements have been seen as almost beside the point in assessing wlf the president gets a second term, it's the virtue of this campaign or it's the damning criticism of this campaign to know that this decision has been set up for the
american people as if it has very little to do with what this president has done with his last four years. it's not been about his record. it's been about a character kature of his record. and that's why that list of things that have happened in the past four years maybe seems unfamiliar. you'd think after a campaign this long, we could memorize that list, but that's not what it's been about. if barack obama gets a second term, given the achievements of this past four years, he will likely be enshrined as being one of the most consequential presidents. if not a one-term president whose political failures will overshadow what he got done in policy. that's why tomorrow is such a big deal. this is about one of the most consequential presidents ever and whether the chooesmts will be held or whether they will be clawed back.
walk with me. tomorrow we begin a new tomorrow. >> that's why i need your vote. and if you're willing to work with me again and knock on some doors with me, make some phone calls for me, turn out for me, we'll win wisconsin. we'll win this election. >> joining us now is dan rather, the anchor of "dan rather reports." thank you for being here. >> it's always an honor to be here. this is exciting. i'm having 3,000 calorie attack every hour. >> i don't want to talk about who do you think is going to win. it's easier to wait to see rather than speculate. but one thing i'm struck by is that i sort of feel would have, should have, could have about this campaign. >> and that may have been a mistake by the obama forces.
they came to the decision that they need to attack governor romney. particularly during the early summer months. as you laid it out, they have a strong case to make. this has been a consequential presidency. it's hard to go wrong in a campaign when you have positives to accentuate, at least in the last say six or eight weeks of the campaign. i don't know why they didn't do it. when we look back on the election, especially if president obama should lose, they will regret not running some version of what you ran to open the program. >> i see the value, the political value in defining mr. romney because he was known but not understood. they took the opportunity to do that 37. by not having the campaign be
about president obama's first term, if you take the pillars, the automobile bailout, repealing don't ask don't tell, it didn't end up being what he did in this campaign. >> knowing women are going to be the decisive factor will be does he get the percentage of women he got the last time and do the women turn out for him this time. one of the things that surprised me, nobody has talked about the supreme court. the incoming president will choose probably two and maybe three supreme court justices with all with that entails. and if it's a republican, if mitt romney wins, you can bet the supreme court will move even farther to the right. many thing that's probably a good idea, but i haven't heard it discussed in the campaign. i wonder why the obama people didn't raise it. >> it's an opportunity cost in terms of what they did and didn't do. if they win, it will look genius. but are they going to -- is anybody going to be able to make
political liability for the president that he apointed elena kagan? you look the way that scott brown has had to defend his vote against california began and the way that the republicans campaigned against sotomayor. it's amazing they have been left out. >> and knowing how important women are to the obama campaign. if he does get women above 56% and particularly if younger women don't turn out, then obama's chances may be doomed. and knowing that, why not emphasize i apointed two women to the supreme court who were the third and fourth women ever appointed to the court in the history of the country. they may have missed an opportunity. >> they did draw a sharp distinction with the republicans. in large part because they had such -- it's so easy to do that.
especially with paul ryan on the ticket. there have been anti-abortion on the past, but never one with a legislative trail like paul ryan's. and mitt romney has gone almost as extreme as mr. ryan has in overturning roe versus wade. he would do that against the contraception hostility. i can see on women's issues in particular, you want to be on offense talking about your own record. >> but this was governor romney's bet. the time for spin is over. now time to vote. we'll see. his bet was that women, while they care about all these other social issues, that basically the economy, in governor romney's opinion, was in such bad shape that he could cut into obama's women vote margin by saying you may not agree with these issues, but i will put your husband and you back to work.
there's some indication that things that moved among women toward romney, at least in some degree and if governor romney, if he wins this election, it will be because women ages 24-55 were more worried about the economy than they were these other issues. >> although i totally agree with you in concept and he blew it 234 execution because he couldn't say he supported fair pay for women. when he won't say he'll take action to get equal pay, it's sort of like stepping on a rake and then trying to turn it into a pogo stick. >> we think president obama made mistakes too. and if he loses that may be one of the reasons he loses. >> dan rathers, it's such a pleasure. thank you for being here. >> thank you, rachel. >> dan will be hosting the election coverage starting at 6:00 eastern time.
if you take the polls at face value, there's reason to believe the election is going to be close. and there's reason to believe president obama is likely to be reelected. it's difficult to look at the current polling and include that mitt romney is going to win tomorrow. but it's possible he might win. that said, republicans insist they are going to win. they at least think they have a good shot at winning. and to the extent that's more than just bra va da. they will direct you to two things that give them cause to believe. one is the early voting numbers. democrats are winning in the early voting. why would that i can ma the republicans feel good about early voting? because democrats are not winning by as much as in 2008.
in all of the swing states, the democrats won in 2008. and in all of them but colorado right now this year, the democrats have banked big margins in terms of who is turning up for early voting this year. look at the comparable numbers for 2008. in each of these swing states, the margins by which they are winning is smaller this year than it was last time. republicans tend to do better on election day, so if democrats are going to win, they have to really run up the margin in early voting. they need to build up a big lead in early voting in order to win. this year the democrats' cushion is smaller in all of these key states and nonexistent in colorado. so republicans field good about that. the other thing that gives them hope right now is this. notice anything in particular about this rally in florida? we chose this photo more or less at random, but because it's pretty much demographically representative. an interesting and smart
experiment was done. they had their reporter who was covering president obama on the campaign trail and the reporter covering mitt romney on the trail switch places and start covering the other campaign to see things through the other end of the telescope. the most pointed difference noted by the reporter traveling with obama and then switched to romney, had to do with the crowds. "the crowd is enthusiastic. much like obama's audiences in recent weeks. but they look different. they are noticeably whiter and older." republicans and more conservative candidates have had an advantage with older voters. john mccain, even as he was getting clobbered, he won among early voters. the point about whiter voters is very important to republicans this year. in the last 20 years, this is the percentage of the electorate
voting for president that is white. so you see the most recent one is on the left. the percentage of white voters has been declining. down to 83% in 1996. down to 47% in the last election. and this is not a trend that was brought about by the first black presidential nominee. this is a long-term trend in the demographics of our country that predated president obama running for office. what republicans are now articulating in terms of hopes for tomorrow's election is they may be able in this election to stop that 20-year trend. republicans now arguing that if they can keep the proportion of the electorate that's white from continuing to drop, they might be able to pull out a mitt romney win. republicans are arguing if they can reverse this, if they can get the proportion of the electorate that's white people to actually go up this year.
if they can reduce the proportion of the minority vote and increase the white vote, nothing else really matters. they can win. any questions about why the lines to vote in black neighbors in cleveland are blocks and blocks long this week? here's the rejoinder from the side of the president's reelection campaign. the rejoinder from their side. if people are allowed to vote, if the election does not come down to people in inconvenient demographic groups being stopped from voting, if people are allow ed to express their preferences in this election, there's one very important thing about what people's preferences look like right now. back to 2008 when john mccain got walloped by barack obama, that was the margin by which john mccain lost the latino vote. being behind by 36 points means you can't win the election. you have to do better if you want to win the presidency. the national pew research poll shows that the gap right now for mitt romney is worse than john
mccain's. mccain had a 36-point gap. romney has a 39-point gap. pew's last poll understated the degree to which john mccain was going to lose latinos. and their last poll this year is projecting a 39-point loss for romney. in another poll, the decisions poll out ahead of the election a couple days ago shows an even worse result. pew has romney down by 39 points. latino decisions has him down by 49 points. 13 points worse than john mccain did when john mccain lost badly. so yes, this race is close. the polls say president obama is likely to win even though it's going to be close. if you're curious, the reason they think they might not lose is because of who they think will actually vote. who will be able to vote and have their vote counted?
they are counting on electorate choosing the president that turns back time in terms of how white the country really is. here's my question, though. even if that works tomorrow, is that really a plan for the future? joining us now is frank rich, new york magazine's writer at large. it's great to have you here. >> great to be here with you. >> i don't usually do segments with that many numbers, but when i started doing it on white voters, i felt like i just ran into a brick wall. i feel like this is electorally determinative provided that people are allowed to vote. >> allowed to vote and turn out. i mean i think as we see what's going on in florida and ohio, there are real obstacles being put in the way of minority voters. also i think if you read republican blogs and listen to sort of their wisdom, they are possessed by the idea that latinos are not going to come out. i don't know if it's based on
anything or even if the polling is entirely accurate about the latino vote. but they have to count on it because romney did everything possible in the republican party to drive away every latino voters in the country. >> why do you think that the appointments -- i was talking to dan rather about this. the appointments of the supreme court weren't more of a rallying call for the obama campaign this year? it seems like for people who are concerned about the supreme court, both on campaign finance and women's rights, but also on the issue of latino voters and her being the first hispanic justice. why didn't that end up being a more high profile issue. >> it's one of a number of things. you outlined earlier tonight that it's an impressive record. it really wasn't pushed by the campaign. it's amazing how this very
effective, brilliant guy with a very smart campaign team has been so lackluster in celebrating his own achievements. it didn't come up in the debates or the discussion of women in the debates. immigration in general has not been much of an issue, let alone pointing to sotomayor. i dare say if obama loses, it's something that will be talked about and examined and we'd like to hear some answers about. >> i will say if i had to make the decision, if he wins, it's going to look like genius. at least the polls make it look like president obama is likely to win. but i do think that if i had to make the choice, and i would be the world's worst candidate, but if i had to make the choice of defining mitt romney for the country, if i had to choose
between defining mitt romney for the country and trying to make people feel better about the things in the country, i think i might pick let's talk about mitt romney. >> absolutely. because he's a wall street guy, at least figuretively, in a time after that industry helped, you know, grease the skids for this collapse of our economic system. so i think that was a wise decision. and the guy, you know, to me, romney there's no there beyond the bain career. he helped the olympics and he's a good family man. so that is his record. and of course, his governorship, which he disowned, starting with romney care. so of course, they had to do it. and they might have pivoted better and a little sooner on the the second half of the e kwags, which is what obama accomplished during these four years.
>> terms of the changing demographics of the country and republican strategy going forward, if mitt romney loses tomorrow, i think there's going to be yet another round of confully gags in terms of them. whenever there's a fight in the republican party, the side that says we weren't conservative enough always wins. it will be interesting to see what happens there. but there's this larger, more sober reckoning that needs to happen about what they are going to do in a country with changing demographics that reduces the proportion of white voters in every election, when they are hodding on to the white voters by the skin of their teeth and not expanding with non-white voters. >> i can tell you right now, this is the last cycle we're going to see where they talk about self-deportation and building a fence and the arizona law. i think that's going to be over. before romney locked himself into those positions, you saw
people like marco rubio saying maybe you don't want to veto the dream act. the writing is on the wall for him. this was after karl rove and george bush's idea, they did court the latino vote. bush came close to getting 40% of it. so it's low-hanging fruit. and how they antagonized the latinos. >> they have to age out of it. i looked at the transcripts of the way republican senators oppose sotomayor, i realized if that's what's going on in the senate and they are going to stay there forever and ever, it's going to take a long time to age out of this issue. frank rich, get a good night's sleep.
in oregon, the last major poll showed the measure behind, but only by single digits. that's one thing to deep in mind. the drug war might look different at this time tomorrow than it does today. it could also be a big night for gay rights. every time it's been on the ballot, the record for the gay rights side has been 0-32. but tomorrow that might change. voters in four states will be deciding tomorrow on the rights of same-sex couples to get married. in maryland, the latest referendum is a tossup. same deal in minnesota. it's an amendment to ban same-sex marriage. the ban is losing in one poll and another poll shows it's winning. washington state looks the best for gay rights. the polling says voters look ready to approve marriage equality. also there's maine where maine voters rejected marriage equality back in 2009 but they seem ready to support it now.
also do you remember the law in michigan passed by the republican legislature that lets them override your local vote? their emergency manager law where the governor claims the right to overrule whoever it is you voted for for mirror city council in your town. the governor can install his own overseer to do whatever he wants. he can cancel contracts, sell off the town assets, even dissolve the whole town, without the consent of anyone in the town. michigan emergency manager law. democracy is not how we self problems. democracy is a problem and it can be shut down in mitch on the governor's say-so. if that sounds radical, it is. that radical law is going to be on the ballot in michigan tomorrow for repeal.
and if the polls are correct, it looks like it is going to be repealed. only a third or so of michigan voters say they support that law. not even a majority of michigan republicans say they support it. but that emergency law may be caput this time tomorrow. the first is new hampshire, which is getting attention for swing state status. you know what else is going on there tomorrow? they appear poised to pick an entirely female slate of top officials. both new hampshire's u.s. senators are women. neither of them is up for re-election. in the race for governor, it's the democrat maggie hassan, there are also two congressional seats, in one of them it's mckuster and in the other one it's carol shea porter.
if the current polling for the other races hold and if carol shea-porter wins that race, then i think we are looking at new hampshire here, the technical political science term for that is lady time. one last thing to keep an eye on. here's the last cnn poll out of ohio. this came out friday. head to head, president obama versus mitt romney in ohio. that shows the president ahead 50-47. but cnn did the same poll in a slightly different way. rather than just doing a head to head match up, they also polled on the other candidates who were going to be on the pallet. in that one he still leads mitt romney by 3 but it's a way more complicated interesting result. and even goode pulling in half a % in ohio.
i brought extra clothes to work with me today. see? if it becomes clear tomorrow that we have to be heading out to colorado or ohio or florida for that matter, because it turns out that's where this thing is going to be decided over a period of days and weeks and months instead of it just being called tomorrow night, i'm ready to go. you never know and clean socks are a courtesy to everyone. that is how i'm getting ready for tomorrow. i'm reading everything in sight. also laundry. how are you preparing for
tomorrow? a third of the country has already early voted. if you already have, i'm guessing your plans tomorrow are to bring people to the polls, right? or maybe you have not early voted and tomorrow is the day you are going to vote. either way, you should be prepared for something that may very well take a long, long time. in this election, in the places that are most important for you to vote, those places are turning out to also be the places where it is sometimes the most difficult to vote. so whether you are bringing people to the polling place tomorrow, standing with them in line or whether you yourself have to go out and vote tomorrow, or whether you are maybe baby sitting for someone so they can go out and vote or maybe you are covering a shift for someone you know so they can go out and vote tomorrow is going to be a big endurance day. and if your responsibilities at the polls and for those people that you are helping to get to the polls tomorrow, if you end up having an easy time voting tomorrow, that's a windfall. don't plan on that.
plan on a long day and be pleasantly surprised that you don't need it. plan ahead. really. if you normally head out for the day with a pocketbook, you need to head out tomorrow with a backpack. and in your backpack maybe you'll want some fruit roll-ups. maybe water, certainly, some jerky, do you eat beef jerky? there's this goo stuff that i'm told that runners eat which scares me a little bit. if you are an older person or a person with mobility issues or if you are bringing people to the polls who are older or have mobility issues, have you planned to bring one of these? this is a chair. are you planning on bringing a chair with you when you go to the polling place in the event that you have to be in a very long line or you need to offer somebody a chair who is in a long line? you should bring a chair in case
you need it or you need to give it to somebody else to endure a very long line. that is the kind of way to think about and prepare for tomorrow. and even once all your responsibilities for tomorrow are over, whether or not you are pleasantly surprised to find there weren't that much of a hassle at all or whether it did take you all day and you were glad you had your beef jerky and fruit roll-ups, even when it's over, no matter how well it goes or how long it takes, you have to come home and watch tv until very, very late at night. and so, carbs. you need to give yourself the energy to stay up tomorrow into the wee hours. so one of these probably wouldn't be that bad an idea, either. except you do not want to fill it with beer. put some water, maybe some red bull whatever you need to stay up with us to watch it all